During the one seminar session one of the girls just looked completely bored and like she didn't want to be there at all, and I don't think she said more than 2 words until about 10 minutes left to go in the instruction. Basically the entire program was unstructured, with no clear direction, and no sense of the girls actually wanting to teach. And during that part of the instruction both the girls said they didn't like to swallow, so the "host" basically said "well there you have it, girls don't like to swallow" Which I know isn't true because I've had girls in the past that did, just my current gf didn't. On the website for the program there was a long list of things that they say are in the DVD that simply aren't. There was absolutely zero step by step instruction on how guys could find the right girl, set up the threesome and smoothly make it happen. One of the claims on that DVD was "where to find the right girl Hint: When a "instructor" says a phrase like that several times you know they're not an effective teacher. It was basically the girls sitting around on the couch having a conversation about sex with no instruction element to it at all. Maybe the other product was good, but the one I had was really bad. Basically these girls live that party lifestyle where alcohol, hot tubs, and bi-sexual women are abundant, but there wasn't any concrete advice for a regular joe who doesn't already live that lifestyle. From the first 5 minutes of the first DVD I could tell that I would be sending it back for a refund, but I did give each DVD it's fair shot hoping that it would get better. On the 3 some DVD's the girls talked about their experiences and a lot of it went something like this: One of the things I wanted to get my girl to do was swallow, which she was never into. The "Ultimate Fantasy Package" was designed to tackle 3 areas: After watching each DVD twice I still couldn't find the points that were claimed to be there. The hype was so misleading, it is not a stretch to call it a con. The product was big on hype and small on delivery.